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National Youth Leadership Society

Regarding the National Youth Leadership Society, if it's been discontinued, do we need a full list of what leadership positions counted and how many points each was worth? :) BartHumphries 09:37, November 22, 2016 (EST)

International Spirit Award

Responded to your comment on my talk page. 21:53, February 16, 2018 (EST)

Thanks for your help

Thanks very much for your help, you're making the wiki a better place. :) BartHumphries 15:46, February 22, 2018 (EST)

New Sysop: Nicouds

User Nicouds has been promoted to Sysop status. Congrats! —RWSmith (Bureaucrat), 14:39, April 2, 2018 (EDT)

Religious Emblems

I reverted back to a previous version of the Religious Emblems page because it's more up-to-date than the scouting.org brochure. I followed and checked every link and updated a number of links and phone numbers which had gone out of date on that printed brochure. :) BartHumphries 17:26, October 26, 2018 (EDT)

The source for the most of the July updates I made was the 2018 Boy Scout Requirements book. Here is a PDF of the relevant pages: Religious Emblems section of the 2018 Boy Scout Requirements book (ignore the green shading; that just shows differences between the 2018 and the 2017 editions of the BSR). While the BSR is not immune to having mistakes in it, nor for things to have changed since the updates were made back in July, I'm not sure I understand the need to revert back everything rather than just fixing the places where there needed to be updates. Is there a more current definitive source of religious emblems information than the 2018 BSR?
Now that the page has been reverted, my cursory review of the changes reveals the following:
  • I had added some URLs based on updates from the BSR and based on my own research that are no longer there. In at least one case (Salavation Army) I switched a URL to point to PDF from scouting.org rather than one hosted elsewhere on the internet.
  • The 2018 BSR includes some additional religious organizations (e.g., Anglican Catholic, JAINA, National Association of Anglican and Traditional Catholic Scouters, Nazarene, Sikh, and Unitarian Universalist Scouters Organization) not reflected in the reverted version
  • The BSR includes some updated phone numbers, email addresses and websites. For example, the email for the Polish National Catholic Church is incorrect in the reverted version.
  • The BSR also changed some of the titles of some of the organizations and thus the alphabetical order of them changed. For example, "Scientist Church of Christ" became "Church of Christ, Scientist (Christian Scientist)"; "Roman Catholic" and "Eastern Catholic" became, respectively "Catholic, Roman" and "Catholic, Eastern".
  • Additional awards were added for many of the organizations, but those were lost in reverting
  • Not a huge thing, but I added mailto: links for all the email addresses, which were lost for all but the praypub template
  • There are now a lot of broken URLs (see list below) that I had previous recovered (e.g., many URLs in the "Sample Programs" table near the top, plus the external links).
404 Not Found	http://www.nccs-bsa.org/emblems/PopePiusXII.php	Pope Pius XII(9-12)
404 Not Found	http://www.nccs-bsa.org/emblems-awards/emblems.php	Roman Catholic
404 Not Found	http://www.nccs-bsa.org/emblems/LightOfChrist.php	Light of Christ(1-2)
404 Not Found	http://www.nccs-bsa.org/emblems/ParvuliDei.php	Parvuli Dei(3-5)
404 Not Found	http://www.nccs-bsa.org/emblems/AdAltareDei.php	Ad Altare Dei(6-8)
404 Not Found	http://www.scouting.org/scoutsource/Awards/ReligiousAwards/faq.aspx	Religious Awards - Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)
404 Not Found	http://www.scouting.org/scoutsource/Awards/ReligiousAwards/getstarted.aspx	Religious Awards - How Do We Get Started on These Programs?
404 Not Found	https://www.praypub.org/god_country/	Protestant [302 from http://www.praypub.org/god_country/]
404 Not Found	https://www.scoutshop.org/bsa/uniforms-insignia/insignia-cloth/earned/knots-of-recognition.html	No. 05007 [301 from http://www.scoutstuff.org/bsa/uniforms-insignia/insignia-cloth/earned/knots-of-recognition.html]
404 Not Found	https://www.unityworldwideministries.org/download/file/fid/1426	http://www.unityworldwideministries.org/download/file/fid/1426 [301 from http://www.unityworldwideministries.org/download/file/fid/1426]
Would you be open to reverting it back and then we can make updates where needed? I'd be happy to help.
Nicouds 23:00, October 26, 2018 (EDT)
Sure, my bad, let's revert back and go through them with <ref>reference here</ref>. :) I thought you'd just used the current religious emblems brochure, which hasn't been changed in years and is really out of date. I think the official site of the group and the award text there is a better place to link to than a scouting.org site. Since the organization makes up the rules for its awards, if the organization changes the rules then its own page is likely going to be a more correct version than page at scouting.org. BartHumphries 12:00, November 1, 2018 (EDT)

Historical aviation-related merit badges

I responded to your post about the Historical aviation-related merit badges. :) BartHumphries 11:22, November 9, 2018 (EST)

Template:New Boy Scout requirements

I just fixed a minor formatting problem, but then was surprised by the assertion that the extension was limited to 22 months. Both of the primary sources [1] and [2] say 24 months. Did they maybe change it to 22 and then change it back? Jordan Brown 11:29, February 6, 2019 (EST)

Thanks for the poke. Yes, BSA flip-flopped on the extension. It was 24 months when originally announced back in Oct. Then they changed it to 22 months on Jan. 30 and publicized it as such in the Bryan on Scouting article. After significant feedback from Scouters, on February 1 BSA changed it back to 24 months.
Initially, while the transition rules PDF on blog.scoutingmagazine.org was updated, the PDF linked to from web pages on www.scouting.org was not. The Eagle Scout Rank web page and the Family Scouting web page on scouting.org both pointed to an outdated PDF. I had been exchanging emails on Feb. 5 with the Advancement Team at BSA about that. BSA updated the PDF linked to from those web pages with the latest revision sometime late in the afternoon on Feb. 5 or between then and now. I've updated the template to reflect this update (change back to 24 months). Thanks again.
Nicouds 12:36, February 6, 2019 (EST)

latest workbooks

Paul has been creating the workbooks, but would rather just dump the latest workbooks into the appropriate folder at usscouts instead of individually uploading each one here. So I'm linking to the latest version there. All of the "more than one word in the title" merit badges still need to be changed like http://meritbadge.org/wiki/index.php?title=American_Business&diff=55075&oldid=55010 was just changed (a dashed named added as a first parameter to the notes template). BartHumphries 14:14, February 15, 2019 (EST)

Yeah, I saw what you were doing and knew that Paul wanted us to switch to pointing to the workbooks on usscouts.org. I just wish usscouts would use an underscore instead of a dash/hyphen in the filename for spaces. Then we wouldn't need to use special parameters here. We could just use PAGENAMEE to get an encoded page name with underscores for the spaces. That's how I have been able to link using a template back to the MB requirements pdfs on scouting.org, with the exception of a small number where BSA doesn't use an underscore uniformly in the file name. I realize Paul has been and continues to be pretty busy with the 2019 updates, but I'll reach out to him to see if he is amenable to standardizing on an underscore for spaces instead a dash/hyphen for the workbook file names. That might be too much work for no gain from his perspective, especially as a bulk update throughout, but maybe he could just migrate towards that incrementally when each workbook is revised in the future.
Also, note that later today I plan to rename "Fly Fishing" to "Fly-Fishing", which is the correct name for the merit badge. This will make it so that that page doesn't need a parameter for the merit badge header or notes templates. I had posted on the Fly Fishing talk page about that proposed back in early December. I did the same thing earlier this week when I moved "Search & Rescue" to "Search and Rescue".
If you want to reach me by email, I'm at snicoudDOTscoutsATgmailDOTcom.
Nicouds 14:55, February 15, 2019 (EST)
Thanks! :) BartHumphries 15:18, February 15, 2019 (EST)
Oh shoot, just realized all the Cub Scout & Venturing workbook links need to be updated too. :p BartHumphries 15:30, February 15, 2019 (EST)

Workbook page

It looked like the workbook page hadn't been updated in a very long time (dates of last revision were wildly incorrect). So I just pointed it to the Scouts BSA Portal and removed the two main links. Each merit badge page has at least two links to its workbook. Someone could go look up the revision date for every workbook then edit http://meritbadge.org/wiki/index.php?title=Merit_Badge_worksheets&redirect=no using http://meritbadge.org/wiki/index.php?title=Merit_Badge_worksheets&oldid=54252 to put correct info in and properly link to all the workbooks, but it'd be a lot of work and someone would have to remember to update it every time a workbook gets updated. As things now are, each merit badge will always link to the latest version. If you want to take up that task, go for it. Otherwise, I think things are good now. What do you think? :) BartHumphries 15:26, February 15, 2019 (EST)

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